Because I’ve discussed the individual sexual habits and proclivities of individual vampires before, many of whom were makers-sires/progeny-children, and I’m pretty sure I’ve mentioned the different kinds of maker-sire/progeny-childe relationships, but I wanted to properly list them out and analyze them.
Shockingly, this list is not going to be canon-sorted. Since it’s about different kinds of things, I’m sorting it that way. So.
Sexual relations from the start
- These are the makers (okay, from here out I’m just going with makers and progeny, since quantitatively there are going to be more on this list who are thusly called in canon) who are banging their progeny, period. They sire (but see here I’ll use that term as a verb, because I like it) a vampire because they like them and want to be with them intimately.
- Sometimes these maker-progeny relationships end; this is often due to choices made by the progeny. They want to live a different kind of life, so they ask to be released and basically dumped, or they do something to cause the maker to feel they have no choice but to set such a scenario into motion.
- Both pairs of consistently coupled makers and progeny who constitute Buffy and Angel‘s Whirlwind, Darla/Angelus and Drusilla/Spike, could be made to fall under this category. (Angelus/Drusilla is a more complicated issue.) Darla (Julie Benz) seduces Angelus (David Boreanaz) and turns him, they go on their merry and have all the sex the whole time (though not exclusively, of course), their relationship is then terminated by Angelus and his acquisition of a soul. Drusilla (Juliet Landau) is enchanted by Spike, who is then William (James Marsters), then she charms him and turns him, they go on their merry and have all the sex the whole time (though not exclusively, of course). Their relationship is terminated technically by Dru, but because she observes a change in Spike’s behavior.
- The best example I can pinpoint from True Blood is Lorena/Bill. (While certain other couples, i.e. Russell/Talbot, technically fall into this category, many of the details are ones that are not given much airtime, so I’m just going to mention it and move on.) Many of the details of Lorena’s (Mariana Klaveno) past are similarly fuzzy (though according to the True Blood wiki, there are several things in common with the Drusilla situation) but the details of her relationship with Bill (Stephen Moyer) are fairly straightforward. He shows up at her cabin on his way home from the war, she appreciated his “strong moral character” (quoting from the wiki there, because I think it’s funny), she turns him, they go on their merry and have all the sex the whole time. In 1935, then, Bill asked to be released, being fed up with Lorena’s being, well, a prototypical murdering seducing vampire.
- Oh, and I guess there’s plenty of this in Twilight, because sex is okay as long as you’re in a committed relationship and maker-progeny situations seem to sometimes lead to committed relationships in Twilight. Or committed relationships lead to maker-progeny situations.
The fuzzy gray area that involves sexual relations, but
- There are three types of these.
- Angelus/Drusilla, wherein it is a fuzzy gray area because, well, there are sexual relations, there are a lot of sexual relations, but they are technically in relationships with their own other halves. The Whirlwind is this big polyamorous mess of vampire sexin’, but it’s mostly that they like to share. Also, Angelus/Drusilla is never a proper relationship, because the proper relationships that come from the sex in these other cases involve(d) some degree of officialness. Angelus was with Darla, Drusilla was with Spike, and there was never really any time when the four of them were together and that wasn’t true. And here the father and daughter thing is very intentionally creepy.
- Eric/Pam, wherein it is a fuzzy gray area because yes, they partake of the sexual relations when Eric (Alexander Skarsgard) turns Pam (Kristin Bauer van Straten). They also partake of the sexual relations before she is turned. But while they eventually stop having these relations, they don’t ever actually have a “break up” like the above couples. They stop banging, but they stay together, and their relationship gradually shifts into one that the True Blood wiki says is “comparable to that of a father and a daughter,” though never entirely. They stop banging, but they stay really, really close.
- Pam/Tara, wherein it is a fuzzy gray area because the circumstances of their turning involve no sex whatsoever, but their attraction grows naturally. Pam turns Tara (Rutina Wesley), but Tara makes the first direct move sexually. There is an aspect of mother and daughter to their relationship, though it’s really only as much as you would see with a little girl “mothering” a doll, dressing her up and scolding her for purported misbehaviors. Mostly they are just two women with a definite power dynamic that eventually enter into a relationship.
Pretty much familial
- I feel weird saying that the Master (Mark Metcalf) was properly fatherly toward Darla, but there’s really no other place to put them, because I’m pretty sure they never banged? “Darla,” a nickname given her by him, means “dear one,” but that could just as likely be a dearness born of some sort of platonic familial affection. She was his protégé, and that was pretty much that, I think?
- Also, Bill and Jessica (Deborah Ann Woll). This is the most overtly daddy-daughter relationship that really is between a maker and progeny, and honestly, the only times I’ve ever felt fond toward Bill was when he was playing good dad. I’m positive I’ve mentioned that before. I imagine that Bill’s reasons for not sexually relating to Jessica were several: for one, he remembered how unhappy he was in a romantic relationship with his maker. For another, he was in a relationship with Sookie (Anna Paquin) at the time. For another, Jessica was a teenage kid, after all, and Bill used to have scruples and whatnot. But while he was a pretty awkward dad at first, and he obviously turned into a huge jerk in regards to the whole Lilith mess, there was a period in the middle where he was just an affectionate father, and she was happy to call him her dad, since in that in-between he was way less of a douche than her human father.
- I’m pretty sure this is mostly true of Godric/Eric and Godric/Nora? In their conversations about Godric (Allan Hyde), Eric and Nora (Lucy Griffiths) tend to refer to him as “father,” and they do seem to (have) compete(d) for his affections like siblings do. I don’t know if we’ll ever know how much maker-progeny sexin’ was going on in that situation (personally, I suspect there was some, but that it eventually faded out over time a la Eric/Pam, and while Eric/Pam’s eventual form was something almost father-daughter but also decidedly not, the vibe of Godric’s relationship to his progeny was much more strictly familial at the end).
- Oh, and I guess there’s some of this with Twilight and Carlisle the wonder vampire doctor dad.
- Angelus was somewhat of an extra maker for Spike; this is mentioned sometimes.
- Eric and Pam both stood as substitute makers for Jessica for that little while (and I understand why it wasn’t part of the show, but I kind of wish we’d have seen those shenanigans at least a little, just because I love the ridiculous cool older cousin/enthusiastic little cousin vibe that Pam and Jess have).
- Salome (Valentina Cervi) was basically an extra maker for Nora. Because Godric may have taught her how to vampire, but Salome taught her how to do many other things, I’m sure.
- Oh, and this is true of Twilight and Carlisle the wonder vampire doctor dad too.
–your fangirl heroine.